Announcement Admin Meeting Results

[Glacius Verglas]

We all know who SolidSteal is at this point and can safely agree that they are the only person who gives a fuck about this and should stop making new accounts.

You know very well that the only reason why these maps are voted for is because this cult of players that have nothing to do with the server or community join in, and nominate and vote for the maps.

The players you say we are discriminating do not want to play these maps, even if you keep telling yourself that they do want to.
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[Hollow Knight]

Server is online 24/7. ,,FF marathon'' lasts 4 hours (more or less), so you still have 20 fucking hours to play other maps. I don't see any problem here.

 

[Neon]

@Neon there is a way to see how many times each maps is played ?

Right now we cant do that precisely I think. Maybe we should add smth.

Server is online 24/7. ,,FF marathon'' lasts 4 hours (more or less), so you still have 20 fucking hours to play other maps. I don't see any problem here.

FF marathon happens at prime time, where other maps that require a full good team could be played.

Sure we are overreacting this Comes from the Guy that fight a personal war against ff maps and the People that like them. Removing all ff maps you want us to ask like a Little kid ask his Parents for that forbidden sweetness im sorry But im to proud for that. Its rediculous what this Admin Team is Doing discrimination of the own playerbase.

Paramina is probably my favourite ZE map, I spent hours doing the stripper for Race Mode on Mako and helping Zuff testing the ZED mode. Also the special Lasers on Wester Stage 1 werent made within 5 minutes.
I do not hate FF maps, I kinda dislike FF fags.

 

[Hollow Knight]

FF marathon happens at prime time, where other maps that require a full good team could be played.

Yes, they could be played, but it doesn't mean, that they will. Removing FF maps will only reduce the frequency of playing them, but it won't help the maps, that have been forgotten. If you want maps such as Convoy to be played more often, then you need to find a better solution.

 

[Kaby]

@ZeGaWa go back where u came from, no one missed u ;)

I am a regular here that plays longer on this community than most ppl here, also i play a lot of diffrent maps, not all of them are ff related.
How ever i am not gonna leave after a ff-map if the next map is decent, so if the population drops 25% after a ff map than consider that some ppl maybe dont like sorrento ;) Also not everyone likes minas, stop talking for other ppl if u dont know there oppinion.

Also the ppl that are hating so much against ff, who is it ? Nivinski - inacitve , Zegawa- inactive, Glacius - inacitve ? So why would we listen to ppl who dont even play on the server as a regular. Ah i see , some of them have a good amount of expirience of how to destroy a community/server. DONT MAKE THIS A SECONG i3d/next, since both of this community were cancer as fuck.

 

[D()G@N]

why don't you just put a cooldown of 2-3 maps between FF maps. So whenever you play one all other that are not on cooldown cannot be nominated for like 2 maps. This should prevent FF map marathons easily.

 

[Stefan]

Can't see why this is such a big deal. As far as I understand it's just an admin that has to nominate it now?

With these type of maps I think it's a very difficult line to draw. They bring a short inflate to population at the cost of deflate after the map is over.

A server can not sustain by people who only join for specific maps. This is a fact. I recall a server was made once specifically for these types of maps. That server did not get any people on at all. Their main server did fine, but this was due to having regular players. So it all ended with that server closing and they had the specific maps back on the main server where they had players.

Try looking at it this way. If you like playing the FF maps, you're required for that server to have a set of regular players. This decision was made for having more regular players.

 

[Glacius Verglas]

A server can not sustain by people who only join for specific maps. This is a fact. I recall a server was made once specifically for these types of maps. That server did not get any people on at all. Their main server did fine, but this was due to having regular players. So it all ended with that server closing and they had the specific maps back on the main server where they had players.

This.
It's been tried before, and was extremely unsuccessful.
You need the regular players that just join in because it's ZE and not because of a certain map.
These players are the base that decides whether a server stays populated or not.
These players also do not want to dodge lasers or do try hard maps non-stop, and will quit if the server only plays those kind of maps.
It's been proven multiple times, and arguing about not being able to nominate and inflate the server numbers with "fake" players won't work.

 

[Kaby]

I have just a few things to share in this topic so i'll keep this nice and simple, Dont talk smack when you dont know jack shit what's going on in the background, If Niv and Glacius chose to play 24/7 there wouldn't be a place for you to bitch about all of this.

FF maps are overplayed and that's a fact, a random pickler hops on spam votes then leaves after the map is done, That's so how it always happens, Ever wonder why people like Nostar dont stick around after a map like paramina or wanderers palace is over? That's fucking right.

ok dear meme manager get ur facts right, i know glacius and niv did a lot for this community, i appreciate that u know, it makes the server/forum enjoyable while ur memes are just pure cancer. Now to the main part again, doing a lot of work in the background still makes u not an active player. And i was cconsidering that fact, since we talking about changes ingame.
Another fact "overplayed" is just a subjective view, so dont talk about facts if u dont know what it means.

and now go kill urself or get ur memes out ;)

 

[Kaby]

Just shows you for the little delusional pickler that you are, we have over 172 maps on the server and most of those maps dont get to see the sun shine because the maps that are usually voted get put in a one endless cycle, when was the last time at least 2 FF maps weren't played in a single day?

Let's see how would you like it if we played sorrento 2 times a day everyday and i dare you to say that it doesnt get over saturated and boring.

Oh and one more thing my "Cancer memes" have nothing to do with this discussion what so ever, if you wanna vent your frustration on something irrelevant to the topic at hand masturbate to a solo of westersand since that's the only time where you're actually enjoying yourself map fag.

Ok this gets kinda offtopic, still i will explain it one more time for u.

no one cares if i would like to play sorrento 2 times a day or not, what matters is what THE MAJORITY OF THE SERVER WANTS TO PLAY, thats why we have mapvotes, so if its voted for sorrento, fine everyone accepts it, ppl that dont like that map are gonna leave, same shit should happen if a ff map gets voted, just accept that the majority of the server voted for that map, if u dont like it same as on sorrento, feel free to leave and come back when the map fits ur taste.

calling me a mapfag just shows that u dont know me at all, so pls stop offtopic, and focus on the important things, like how we can get a good solution for all players on the server. #BRINGBACK WESTERSAND,FEYWOOD AND COSMO. After that is done u could increase the maps that have to be played until a map can be nominated again, that would deal with ur "daily FF-Marathon" also maybe 1 of those 172 maps could get to the sun for a day and still people would be able to nominate there favorite maps.

 

[Bird Is The Word]

Right now we cant do that precisely I think. Maybe we should add smth.

I believe @Nightshadow had a pretty nice system set up for the old i3d/n3xt server on the admin site we used.

 

[solidsteal]

I have just a few things to share in this topic so i'll keep this nice and simple, Dont talk smack when you dont know jack shit what's going on in the background, If Niv and Glacius chose to play 24/7 there wouldn't be a place for you to bitch about all of this.

FF maps are overplayed and that's a fact, a random pickler hops on spam votes then leaves after the map is done, That's so how it always happens, Ever wonder why people like Nostar dont stick around after a map like paramina or wanderers palace is over? That's fucking right.

Feywood wasnt overplayed Cosmo wasnt overplayed Mako v6 wasnt overplayed But still they got removed. Isnt it weird you can clearly See that some admins fight a personal war against ff maps and the People that like them. Only Westersand and paramina were overplayed and what a Wonder paramina is still in nominate list.how is that possible the only ff map that is really overplayed is still in the Nomination List. But Neon likes Paramina so it doesnt get removed even when paramina is the only ff map that is really overplayed.

 

[ZeGaWa]

Feywood wasnt overplayed Cosmo wasnt overplayed Mako v6 wasnt overplayed But still they got removed.

It's not only for "being overplayed" its because you guys make a marathon with those maps. I know FF maps are great, we just dont like FF fag that's it.
And stop crying for something stupid like that if you want to play you just have to ask an admin nothing more.

@ZeGaWa go back where u came from, no one missed u ;)

Right in the feel

 

[Neon]

@ZeGaWa
I am a regular here that plays longer on this community than most ppl here, also i play a lot of diffrent maps, not all of them are ff related.
How ever i am not gonna leave after a ff-map if the next map is decent, so if the population drops 25% after a ff map than consider that some ppl maybe dont like sorrento ;)
Also the ppl that are hating so much against ff, who is it ? Nivinski - inacitve , Zegawa- inactive, Glacius - inacitve ?

This is why you are not a FF-fag even tho you really love those maps. Mako and Cosmo for example attract a a lot of people that will definetly leave after, no matter what map is next.
Before the admin meeting, we had admins bringing up the problem off FF-marathons which are the most active on the server and also enjoy those maps.

Feywood wasnt overplayed Cosmo wasnt overplayed Mako v6 wasnt overplayed But still they got removed. Isnt it weird you can clearly See that some admins fight a personal war against ff maps and the People that like them. Only Westersand and paramina were overplayed and what a Wonder paramina is still in nominate list.how is that possible the only ff map that is really overplayed is still in the Nomination List. But Neon likes Paramina so it doesnt get removed even when paramina is the only ff map that is really overplayed.

Sorry, but I just cant stand your stupidity so I am not going to answer you.


Edit: @D()G@N just showed me a neat trick for the mapchooser I was not aware of until now, which could be the solution for our problems. I will try that and then reply here again.

Edit2: Today we learned that the exclude command from the mapchooser_extend also has an override flag which is not mentioned in the description......

I moved Cosmo, Feywood and Wester back to normal rotation, but from now on everytime you play an FF map, you cant nominate another FF map without playing at least one different map. This is probably not final, I just wanna see how this works out for the moment.

 

[D()G@N]

Edit: @D()G@N just showed me a neat trick for the mapchooser I was not aware of until now, which could be the solution for our problems. I will try that and then reply here again.

Edit2: Today we learned that the exclude command from the mapchooser_extend also has an override flag which is not mentioned in the description......

Just saying I know this from BotoX. I only told @Neon about it.

 

[tb]

Just saying I know this from BotoX. I only told @Neon about it.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I moved Cosmo, Feywood and Wester back to normal rotation, but from now on everytime you play an FF map, you cant nominate another FF map without playing at least one different map. This is probably not final, I just wanna see how this works out for the moment.

And this is called a reasonable solution to the problem.

By the way, don't you think, that map chosen after the ,,FF marathon'' kills the server, not the marathon itself? Because more people prefer FF maps, it's quite normal.

 

[Erebus]

ppl please.....dont make me come back,,,,as about ghox and qlimax dont worry ppl, they are in my basement..... ...and dont be lazer fggts or crybabies either, trust the admuns

 

[Moltard]

And this is called a reasonable solution to the problem.

By the way, don't you think, that map chosen after the ,,FF marathon'' kills the server, not the marathon itself? Because more people prefer FF maps, it's quite normal.

Like neon said before, if the next map is not ff, the ff fag will anyway leave.
So playing a different map before another ff will bring actual regulars player, who will probably stay for the nextmap.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Like neon said before, if the next map is not ff, the ff fag will anyway leave.

The same applies to people, who don't like FF maps and they leave, because FF map is chosen. But it's not a big problem, since FF maps are more popular.

My point is, that removing FF maps was not a good idea. Now, when we have a better solution, everything should be fine.