Poncher removed from regular list

[vinto]

Well, i saw like many of us that poncher had been removed from the regular nominations. Its now admins only, and honnestly i don't understand why.
Some admins told me it's because it eventually kill the server, well that's not right and a decision based on hypocrysy imo.
We played that fun map since 2 years now and it has always been enjoyed by most players even if some call it racism, i call this dark humor.

Is it possible to discuss about that again? And put back the map please because it's ridiculous to remove a map that some peoples love just because a day it killed the server. If you think like this then remove :

Mako
Feywood
Paranoid (and it killed it alot of time, even if many players enjoy it)
etc...

It's not cool and you guys should think about it again

 

[Neon]

yeah maybe removing it was decided too quickly,
its back with some heavier restrictions

"ze_ponchermonkey_shooter_v3_5"
    {
        "MinPlayers"    "55"
        "Cooldown"        "60"
        "MinTime"       "1700"
        "MaxTime"       "2300"
        "VIP"            "1"
    }

 

[vinto]

ok Thanks, fair enough i guess :)

 

[William! :D]

I am fine with the solution of removing mako and paranoid

 

[HumanZz]

Remove Mako before Mako removes you.

 

[Neon]

well, it even killed the server during an event this time...

 

[William! :D]

just add poncher to admin only for a while. Server doesn't respond well to it at all everytime it is played lately. Even on event.

 

[vinto]

well, it even killed the server during an event this time...

No, stop clearly not, it was just the stupid vip trigger who killed the map. That's simple
I came with this trigger some monthes ago, for candy star event i nominated one time. It was cool to play it on this map. But on poncher it's a bad idea.

So please don't remove it just because of that. We know how to play poncher since long time now. And it's not because it's a bad period and players are bad you have to remove it, it's holidays for fuck sake maybe some ppls are not here, maybe its just a bad period. I have several memories where we win the map. Dont put it admin only just because of yday event

 

[William! :D]

eh, the VIP mode did not matter at all. I told admins to ignore it and we didn't slay cause of it. In fact, not one single round was lost due to the VIP mode. You're just making an excuse.

 

[vinto]

William... I respect you and i like you i know you are one of this guys who think before to talk, but don't tell me that i perfectly know what i say, take the problem differently ok?

Poncher came 2 years ago, why the fuck, JUST WHY, should you guys put it in the admin list juste because it"s holiday, there is clearly a lack of skill comparated to other period, but c'mon. We already won poncher , its a hard map should i refresh your memories... It's not supposed to be beaten like this ez pz. Plus it's not my fault if some assholes nominate it everyday, i love this map but i don't wanna play it everyday. Honnestly you are taking a small isolated case, or even a small period, and want to punish the whole community who like this map just because of dark arguments. I will start to tell myself it's really because you found the map "racist" like some peoples told me you are searching for bulshit everywhere ... Poncher came 2 years ago, we played it alot, won it. Now since 1 or maybe 2 week because of a retarded team you want to delete it?
If you do this, if you want to argue what you say, you have to delete Paranoid, Mako (both version), basically many ff maps, delete boatescape and other chill maps too because it already killed the server. If you just delete poncher and not these maps well, you will show that you are just searching some stupid argument to delete a map that bother some peoples.

 

[William! :D]

I see your point. Hear me out, vinto.

This is not a special treatment specifically towards poncher. We apply this to any map. You as a player only come to play and have fun, you don't have to worry about running the server. Meanwhile we have to analyze our economy and our playerbase, our statistics etc. Sometimes some maps in some periods affect server badly. We try to limit them. This isn't against the map or the players. An example is minas. The admin team has many minas fags but yet it has several times been restricted.

I don't wish to delete any map, I only joke about removing paranoid. We have tried and observed that map for several weeks now and it has affected population badly. We put it on cooldown even since we know you guys still want to nominate it. But alas. Admin nomination does not mean it can never be played. EVEN you recognize the team has been retarded. Let me tell you what it means.

It means the map can only be played when admins nominate it, when the team is capable of it. This way, it won't affect the server badly. You are free to ask us to nominate it anytime.

I hope this clarifies it.

 

[vinto]

I understand even if i don't 100% agree. But when u see a cooldown, is it forever? Or just temporary removed. As you say it's a period, maybe after holidays or some monthes put it again in regular list?
I know admin list mean we play the map if the team is ready, but hiding a map in admin list bring a major problem, when it's not famous map like para, mako minas. If i ask an admin to play it, he have maybe to make a vote, ppls has to chose. Then, he will eventually insert it in nomination, then ppls have to vote again ... It limits a lot. Still, if i ask and admin to play it, it donesn't mean he will agree with me or do it. Let's try what happen but i prefer neon's idea 1rst, more restrictions and cooldown, it was ok for me

 

[William! :D]

Of course it's only temporary. Could definitely be added back after the holidays.

We haven't added it to admin nom yet. Tis up to @Neon. Maybe he'll just stick to heavy restricting it.

I think in the end, limiting a map for the best of the server is a hit we have to take from time to time. Even if we do not like it.

 

[Hassan]

you should delete poncher monkey because i dont like that map. its a boring map without lasers nobody cares about it.

 

[Middy]

you should delete poncher monkey because i dont like that map. its a boring map without lasers nobody cares about it.

But, there are lasers in that map. What's your next best excuse?

 

[Hassan]

But, there are lasers in that map. What's your next best excuse?

Even you can dodge the lasers in poncher monkey that means the lasers are easy as fuck and boring.

i dont like that map i want it deleted. because i m the best its all about me. i m always right. i m the smartest.

you just do what i want and everything will turn good.

 

[Middy]

How come you're the best but I haven't seen you do lasers backwards? @The Calculating God

 

[Hassan]

How come you're the best but I haven't seen you do lasers backwards? @The Calculating God

uhhh lasers backwards thats the only thing that i fear in my life for real.

 

[Middy]

uhhh lasers backwards thats the only thing that i fear in my life for real.

Disgusted. You're no longer the laser god. The dream is dead. I cannot believe this, all this time. The real laser god would do backward lasers easy peasy. Shaking my head. Disappointed.