Let's talk

[Sanji]

Sup, before i start , it doesn't make me happy to write things like this

We're many tired of the admins on UNLOZE nowadays, the problem is that everybody complain in private instead of complaining here , don't forgot how you became an admin, you asked for it, i think that global admins didn't invited you with no reasons (This is important).
If you're a trial admin and really want to be an admin in the future, i can understand that you want to do too much to show to the higher admins that you know how to use your commands. But if after passing the Trial Admin , you're promoted to Admin, don't start to be a bitch with the others.

If you connect on the server just to insert minas (that is basicly on cooldown) just for your personnal pleasure , then i think you can help everyone to play their favorite map after the minas if they asking you ?

Sinagrida made an event (mako,paranoid,minas with special kickers) , why would you delete the event ?
ofc we play these maps when it is not on cooldown, but do not forgot that people have the choice to vote for or against, so you delete an event just because "admins" don't like these maps : )

If you slay the humans on a win round, and you can't justify the slay, then don't fucking slay??????
ofc when i asked why he "did such a retard slay", he responded "shut the fuck up fucking n----- french", then this beautiful admin self muted me because he knew i was right.

If an admin come to the server , insult me in french (for kidding) and 2 sec after he mutes me because i talk french , then don't talk with me in french so i don't talk in french neither.

If you restrict someone for no then don't restrict, easy example, everyone knows that on westersand , the Lure's range has an higher range than wind, if you see someone dies with wind because of the lure, it is not necessary to restrict him.

If you are an admin and everyone ask to slay (because someone is delaying) with 1 human alive, then slay, stop fapping on hentai like a virgin in spec,
Their special arguments are: There are others admins on the server, "why should i slay if there are others admin on the server " ?????????? why you're admin so?

i'll try to be objective on this one , even if everybody know that paranoid is my favorite map.
I know that paranoid is 50/50, you like the map or you hate it, i can understand (i used to hate this map at the beginning)
But why admins cannot extend the maps like another map.
We can play skyrim/wester/faywood/cosmo for 2 hours , but we cannot play paranoid for more than hour :thinksmart:
also the extend vote recquires 65% + of yes, in mathematics, 51>49, so if 51% say yes , it should be extended , just like the normal vote, if for a vote , voodoo island has 51% of vote against shroom forest 49%, is it going to revote again ?????

If you're an admin and you see someone taking an item lvl 1 (paramina,feywood) and you see everyone complaining because it ruins a round, you just do nothing, no restrict, transfer but if someone (me) dares missclick with an item , then it is a restrict for the map,

I know that soundboard can be annoying for the server, but ppl are free to use !sm, otherwise remove the commands, if he's doing too much noise , i understand perfectly the mute, but why not muting ppl that scream "ALLAH, fucking immigrant" too ? It is as annoying as a soundboarder, oh, wait, because they are EOD , it excuses everything.

I'm not the kind of guy complaining for the restrict/mute when it is """deserved""", but you can't justify your abuse , then ofc i am in right to complain and give my opinion.

not all the admins are bad. (sorry for my bad english)

i hope many feedbacks, hope this is not going to turn into toxic thread.
do not hesitate to give your opinion everyone on this, i know we're many thinking this (private message never lie)

 

[Ostkand]

Can you explain why paranoid mandates an admin extend to begin with? You want to beat every single mode everytime you play it?

 

[Tom]

Let's talk

All right. Take a seat.

Spoiler

(don't mind the gun, buddy)

We're many tired of the admins on UNLOZE nowadays, the problem is that everybody complain in private instead of complaining here

Who do you mean by "we" and "many"? Who are those players you're speaking on behalf of?
Also what prevents you from making an admin report? It's absolutely free of charge and doesn't take much time (well, it depends on the details you provide and on the overall situation, ofc). Here's a picture to get you a little bit more motivated:

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Moreover, you don't even have to make any records since we have this beautiful demo archive which you can always find in the Report Template. It has recordings of maps that we played 2 weeks ago. Incredible, isn't it?
Also I agree it's better to handle serious things publicly than talking to someone in private because even if you're right, this secrecy may make people think you're doing some bad things, you know, so JUST DO IT.

don't forgot how you became an admin

How is it related to the two previous statements? I honestly got no idea.

you asked for it, i think that global admins didn't invited you with no reasons (This is important).

Yes, I asked for it, but many people had asked me to apply, including some GAs, because they wanted me to do that.
People are different, so every application case is different.

ofc when i asked why he "did such a retard slay", he responded "shut the fuck up fucking n----- french", then this beautiful admin self muted me because he knew i was right.

Who do you mean by "he"? Tell me their nickname, real name, age, height, weight, address, number of their ID card, pet's name and credit card number, three digits and expiration date.
Also, as far as I know, admins are not allowed to self-mute ppl on the server. And such a response was not the best one, I agree.

If you slay the humans on a win round, and you can't justify the slay, then don't fucking slay??????

If you are an admin and everyone ask to slay (because someone is delaying) with 1 human alive, then slay, stop fapping on hentai like a virgin in spec

You just contradicted yourself. What if there's a possibility that this 1 human can do a solo? Everybody would blame the admin.

If an admin come to the server , insult me in french (for kidding) and 2 sec after he mutes me because i talk french , then don't talk with me in french so i don't talk in french neither.

There's a difference between saying a couple of words in another language (where it suits the situation ofc) and talking constantly with someone in this language. The second thing is that you and your buddy Francois do. And it's not like it's a recent trend, I remember you two doing it many times in the past. I warned you many times btw before muting, although I have the right not to warn at all. And this is in full compliance with the Rules:

9) If you want to use your microphone only speak English and do not use any kind of voice changer otherwise you'll be muted without warning.

(Additional information provided above was taken from admin guidelines, several discussions and special directions.)

also the extend vote recquires 65% + of yes, in mathematics, 51>49, so if 51% say yes , it should be extended , just like the normal vote

Nope. The extend vote occurs after several (2 or 3) normal votes. This means that by the time those normal votes expire, the map has been being played for a long time. The longer the time you play a map, the more the amount of people who are tired of it. This is why 65% is fine. And it works.

If you're an admin and you see someone taking an item lvl 1 (paramina,feywood) and you see everyone complaining because it ruins a round, you just do nothing, no restrict, transfer

Some ppl say that some items (like Fire) are not really important so they can be taken by 1st levelers. Tbh, I'm not rly experienced in these maps. But in this case I first warn then eban on 2nd attempt or eban instantly if they fail with the item.

why not muting ppl that scream "ALLAH, fucking immigrant" too ? It is as annoying as a soundboarder

Because you cannot scream like that for the same amount of time you can spam a song, imo.

That's all I wanted to cover. I appreciate your post and I apologize if something in my reply seemed offensive to you, I didn't mean to insult you in any way.
Hope to see you be more active and comply with the rules. Enjoy your stay, mon ami.

 

[Sinagrida]

@Ostkand He already said why

 

[phantom]

You just contradicted yourself. What if there's a possibility that this 1 human can do a solo? Everybody would blame the admin.

I think he means more in terms of like for instance on Minas or castlevania where having wk and dalf/ belmont and holy plus maybe 5 humans is still very much winnable if its towards the end of the maps and some admins will still slay because they dont know the map well enough or dont like it so they just want to get the round over with already. I am im not sure if ur memeing about the delay part since u added a lenny, but if theres one person hiding at the start of the map and admins wont slay (because they want to run the clock down, which i have seen plenty of time) even if theres like 10 people on mic asking for a slay, then that seems like a problem to me.

Yes, I asked for it, but many people had asked me to apply, including some GAs, because they wanted me to do that.
People are different, so every application case is different.

I mean just recently (i believe it might have been wester or something) there were about 5 admins on we asked for the admin to extend and they took so long that one of the admins had to panic extend without a vote because they had waited too long. Their excuse was well i thought someone else would do it, thats what he is trying to get at that some admins just get admin so they can use the powers when it suits them and if they dont really care about whats going on they just blow it off as someone else's problem.

Who do you mean by "he"? Tell me their nickname, real name, age, height, weight, address, number of their ID card, pet's name and credit card number, three digits and expiration date.
Also, as far as I know, admins are not allowed to self-mute ppl on the server. And such a response was not the best one, I agree.

He said "he" because he didn't want to put an admin on blast for all the public to see but if you must know he is referring to vanster so now its out there.

For the extending paranoid part I may be wrong but ive have been told that not only does it require 65% but only admins of the GA rank or higher can extend which seems a bit weird seeing as that is the only regular rotation map that has such a restriction placed on it, almost as if some people are making sure that paranoid can only be played for a much more limited amount of time while also making the cooldown longer than most other maps hmmmm makes ya think.

 

[Sanji]

Tom if i didn't mentionned the admins , it is because i didn't mentionned the players that are tired of them, it works in both sens

 

[HumanZz]

Nice avatar N$@#$%@#!#@$% Sanji

 

[jenz]

back in muh old days we used rather simple logic. only slay humans that are behind zombies, if humans are infront of zombies zombies gotta finish the round propperly. Exception is of course boss fights where zm cant reach humans but thats litteraly all that should matter.

 

[Kaka]

For the extending paranoid part I may be wrong but ive have been told that not only does it require 65% but only admins of the GA rank or higher can extend which seems a bit weird seeing as that is the only regular rotation map that has such a restriction placed on it, almost as if some people are making sure that paranoid can only be played for a much more limited amount of time while also making the cooldown longer than most other maps hmmmm makes ya think.

65% is the required % for every map and i'm pretty sure admins can do one voteextend on paranoid. Paranoid has the long cooldown because it's a popular map and it tended to kill the server in the past

 

[phantom]

65% is the required % for every map and i'm pretty sure admins can do one voteextend on paranoid. Paranoid has the long cooldown because it's a popular map and it tended to kill the server in the past

Well when we ask admins to do a vote they say that they cant do it so either they are lying because they don't want to even put it up for a vote or because they can't take your pick.

 

[Kaka]

Well when we ask admins to do a vote they say that they cant do it so either they are lying because they don't want to even put it up for a vote or because they can't take your pick.

I was wrong Phantom, admins cant voteextend on paranoid

 

[phantom]

I was wrong Phantom, admins cant voteextend on paranoid

Its all good i didn't mean to come off sounding hostile.

 

[Kaka]

Its all good i didn't mean to come off sounding hostile.

Don't worry i just phrased some things badly, i just wanted to correct the info

 

[TheSilentBang]

Since i am an event manager i'll be answering this specific part:

Sinagrida made an event (mako,paranoid,minas with special kickers) , why would you delete the event ?
ofc we play these maps when it is not on cooldown, but do not forgot that people have the choice to vote for or against, so you delete an event just because "admins" don't like these maps : )

It's completely up to the event manager team's discretion as to what nomination makes it into the poll, it is explicitly stated in EVERY event nomination thread:

• Event managers can alter/edit/modify/remove a nomination if they consider it not event-worthy.

I know there was massive rigging by both sides in a recent poll and we have hidden poll results until the poll ends to counter that problem.

 

[Neon]

I dont feel like commenting on the rest, but since I am the person responsible for most of those restrictions to paranoid, lemme tell you my reasoning here:

Paranoid differs a lot from most ZE maps. It has its unqiue gameplay and twists. Many of our regular players do not like those unique features and therefor leave when the server plays paranoid. On the other hand, there are a lot of players that only join for paranoid, which evens out the players leaving most of the time. Up until this point that is not a real problem. But the longer paranoid is being played, the more regular players leave and the more "paranoid fags" join. And at the moment everything is still fine. But as soon as the map switches, many of the "paranoid fags" leave the server because it is not paranoid anymore. So now not only many regular players are gone, but also the "paranoid fags" and the server population takes a big hit.

I am aware that those scenarios can happen can on other maps too, but none of those managed to do that as consistent as paranoid did.
And that is why it is so heavily restricted.

 

[Wolf Rayet]

Too long didn't read. I will however, call you a retard. Retard.

 

[Sanji]

Too long didn't read. I will however, call you a retard. Retard.

nice comment , now shut your dog mouth

 

[Glacius Verglas]

 

[DuMa]

I dont feel like commenting on the rest, but since I am the person responsible for most of those restrictions to paranoid, lemme tell you my reasoning here:

Paranoid differs a lot from most ZE maps. It has its unqiue gameplay and twists. Many of our regular players do not like those unique features and therefor leave when the server plays paranoid. On the other hand, there are a lot of players that only join for paranoid, which evens out the players leaving most of the time. Up until this point that is not a real problem. But the longer paranoid is being played, the more regular players leave and the more "paranoid fags" join. And at the moment everything is still fine. But as soon as the map switches, many of the "paranoid fags" leave the server because it is not paranoid anymore. So now not only many regular players are gone, but also the "paranoid fags" and the server population takes a big hit.

I am aware that those scenarios can happen can on other maps too, but none of those managed to do that as consistent as paranoid did.
And that is why it is so heavily restricted.

I understand that you made Paranoid heavily restricted but think about it we play the same laser maps mostly everyday and its like the same thing all the time Defending, Doorhugging, and then lasers then done and the thing i dont get is that i dont know why you think the "paranoid fags" are the problem when they play it because its the map they enjoy the most and yea like you said Neon its different from other ZE maps but that doesnt mean you have to make it such a long cool down. Also you guys extend laser maps because the "laser fags" want their screenshot but with Paranoid playing it for 45 minutes like not even a hour but yet lets play Wester Sand for like 2 hours and many players get tired of loosing the same round over and over. All im saying is that you shouldnt make a map a problem on the sever and see what players want to play and maybe change the restrictions on maps that are overplayed not just Paranoid.

 

[Vanster]

If you slay the humans on a win round, and you can't justify the slay, then don't fucking slay??????
ofc when i asked why he "did such a retard slay", he responded "shut the fuck up fucking n----- french", then this beautiful admin self muted me because he knew i was right.

I already explained in the server why i slayed. If you cant accept my explanation thats your problem. To be 100% sure i tested it on the dev server and no you cant trigger anything if the ring doesnt go in and pick an ending. I also tried going up all the way with the triggering the [ring made it to mount doom and has to go inside and drop ring] . i instead waited for the whole 8min to see if it will trigger anything else but no. Nothing happened. [keep in mind the ring died both rounds before he could reach the top even] and it was v4_2 mount doom. And you dont need to expect me to be friendly to you when are being a dipshit yourself. Its always like this when an admin does something u guys go full haaammm on him. I tried explaining to you all whats going on and your replies where instead trash admin whatever whatever. i told u to stfu cuz u are annoying to deal with and i !sm"ed you since there was other admins on the servers to deal with you aswell incase you were just being annoying so they could have muted you.