Suggestion about second ZE server

[FPTyel]

I really want to try it out, so... Are you guys interested to transform second ZE server into vanilla-like?

- No laser maps at all;
- No insta-shot balls, lasers, etc;
- No rebuys at all (only first 30 seconds is available to buy anything);
- Knockback stays remain (can be changed if needed);
- Entwatch only shows who holding item, no cooldown provided;
- No boss hud (boss hp);
- Do more limitation for bhop (due to no rebuys).

Personally I don't like of what's going on with ZE overall:
1) Laser maps (and other maps with insta-killing particles) leads to big NO about team gameplay;
2) Rebuys are annoying. Few people can handle the whole team, yet other will play carelessly. More people focused = more drive, fun, team-based gameplay;
3) Entwatch is actually interrupting the whole gameplay. Having nicknames of whose who holding item is enough;
4) Boss hud is also about gameplay interruption. Some people actively using it to "trim" other people and not involving themself to proceed and finish maps as well.

 

[HumanZz]

Skill issue

 

[mini]

I really want to try it out, so... Are you guys interested to transform second ZE server into vanilla-like?

- No laser maps at all;
- No insta-shot balls, lasers, etc;
- No rebuys at all (only first 30 seconds is available to buy anything);
- Knockback stays remain (can be changed if needed);
- Entwatch only shows who holding item, no cooldown provided;
- No boss hud (boss hp);
- Do more limitation for bhop (due to no rebuys).

Personally I don't like of what's going on with ZE overall:
1) Laser maps (and other maps with insta-killing particles) leads to big NO about team gameplay;
2) Rebuys are annoying. Few people can handle the whole team, yet other will play carelessly. More people focused = more drive, fun, team-based gameplay;
3) Entwatch is actually interrupting the whole gameplay. Having nicknames of whose who holding item is enough;
4) Boss hud is also about gameplay interruption. Some people actively using it to "trim" other people and not involving themself to proceed and finish maps as well.

I have a feeling that with these many settings that ze currently has, makes maps way too "cheesy" and it also stops player interaction at some completely, not even mention that most of the time ze isn't really new player friendly, because you will have to keep up with a lot, including the settings/game knowledge in order to not lose interest.
I believe these casual-classic type are really awesome, but my main concern is if the players nowadays are interested in such things? Though, I'm looking forward for more people and their votes. Cool suggestion!

 

[FPTyel]

I have a feeling that with these many settings that ze currently has, makes maps way too "cheesy" and it also stops player interaction at some completely, not even mention that most of the time ze isn't really new player friendly, because you will have to keep up with a lot, including the settings/game knowledge in order to not lose interest.
I believe these casual-classic type are really awesome, but my main concern is if the players nowadays are interested in such things? Though, I'm looking forward for more people and their votes. Cool suggestion!

Nobody forcing new players to be tryharders This suggestion is not about dropping first server - it is about experiment.

Server still have tons of short and easy maps to start with. For the current state most of them are being abandoded and uses for free-running.
But I do agree with your statement - difficulty will be drastically changed, entrance will be much harder

 

[Mathematics]

I don't think thats a terrible idea, mappers and mapping has gone wild and many are reaching the boundaries of what the Source engine is capable of doing, and not everyone is capable to withstand tryhard sessions all the time.

I would be lying if I didn't say I miss the time that maps were more basic and ZE was more "calm" and not 30 retards screaming at a mic trying to lead the map they just learned on Youtube. Idk if there's +1 or -1 here, but this is a +1 for me.

+1

 

[jenz]

i am still super busy with trying to make the autismbots and fakeclients play and complete ze maps, so i do hope a dev might potentially have time to look at this instead of me. For me it sounds fine that we try to re-purpose the ze2 server. i still put the ze2 with a password on right now because i am still using the server to test. but that will not get in the way of that we can update the ze2 server to be a more casual experience. i just need the ze2 server atm for a few weeks to get things right. maybe less time, then the password is removed again.