The argument of "zombie escape is all about running from zombies, LASERS and bosses"... I mean it's zombie escape, not laser dodging minigames
then pls remove all lasers map, mappers forgot thats minigame gameplay not ze
why are you conflating the objective of a map with the gameplay elements that are on the way to get there?
The same way all surf maps should be removed because they're surf maps gameplay, not zombie escape (seriously tho most surf maps are terribly balanced and boring).
surf maps are ze if you ESCAPE at the end
gameplay being balanced or not is not a way to judge whether a map is ze or not which is what you appear to believe. same with whether they're fun or not
Same way nemesis is not zombie escape. Same way zm_cbble is a zombie hunting/mode map.
nemesis is zombie escape if it's on a ze map, e.g. boatescape
zm_cbble is a zm map, clearly
Voodoo island is a zm map under ze disguise,ze_random ending is not actually escaping, all atix are mostly zm...
this point i have issue with especially
who are you to say that voodoo islands is zm when you escape at the end?
most of the maps in random, aside from the bossfight,slender, failnades, are ze
how can you determine that maps with any holdspots aren't really just "zm map under ze disguise"
voodoo and atix are old maps, the fact that they have those twists on the zm formula in the form of there being an escape is what makes them ze
So why am I saying that? To show you modern ze is not actually ze. There are so many arguments anyone can find to say "X map is not ZE, it has that thing. Y map is not ze, there's no escape".
lasers are a gameplay element that mappers can put in their maps to add a form of challenge that isn't just turning around and shooting
same with any map that contains elements where a human has to do something resembling kz in order for humans to progress further
those are elements that are just on your way to ultimately escaping, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is what the objective of a ze map is
I just told you all lasers maps are not ze. That's my opinion. Your opinion is knife_fun is not ze. If in the end we would follow that logic we would end up with 5 maps out of 300 that qualify as a real true zombie escape maps.
while your whole post is backed by no argument even worth considering, that specific point is not backed by any whatsoever. it seems to have been added just as "if you can make a claim then so can I", except yours holds no weight due to your "opinion" being so fucking disingenuous it's crazy.
knifefun not being ze is not an opinion, it's a fact, since you do not escape. refer to above paragraph for what the objective of a ze map is
please do tell everyone what maps are "real true zombie escape maps" and by what merit should they be determined as such
And who would make a knife_fun map? Well a week ago I heard Nostar and someone else talking about the possibility for them to map a few knife maps. Enjoy
and if those maps end up being made, why should they be added onto the server if they work in the same vein as knifefun? does nostar being the mapmaker specifically make a difference? would it be too hard to say "no your map isn't ze so it won't be added"?
would be cool if you got rid of your bias and, quite frankly, retarded opinions
