Addressing Knife Fun Addition

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Middy

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Alright, I was hoping this addition (zm_knife_fun) to ZOMBIE ESCAPE server would just be an out of season april fools joke, but nah.

Seems like this mg/zm map is here to stay. Now, while I am entirely against this idea and addition, I'm not entirely against it being played (by you, at least).




First of all, it's not a ZE map. Change the darned map name to ZM_knife_fun, it's not an escape map. Period. There are no exits, it's just knife out and headbang at zombies I want to die. holo, try and survive by running around in circles or pushing them away. Now where did I play that before? OH! That's right, in a fucking ZM server, except this is just knives, same thing.


SECONDLY, ZM MAPS ON ZE? LOL! Why's this even on normal nominations? Why's this not admin nominations only? This breaks the whole concept of Zombie Escape. You must be really really REALLY bored if you had to come up with this map and actually had the balls to put it in a Zombie Escape server. Either push up the cooldown or make it admin nominations only. And even then I still feel like some admin fags would nominate this shit all day, so put a cooldown on them too.


Thirdly, cooldown nomination. I could care less about you guys playing this crap. To be honest, if you all played it during the day, when people with responsibilities, jobs, a life, (lolxd we know some of you kids don't really grasp that reality yet) can't really be on the server at that time, they wouldn't whine at a map that's not even supposed to be on this specific server mode in the first place!

But that's not happening, you're playing this at late hours, even extending it, multiple times. That's a big no. Here's a possibility, add cooldown to the map (more than 40, this limit is very low), or ya'know, just remove it from nominations, admin only. I'd like to hop on this server and actually play the game mode it's supposed to offer me. Give people at least that.


Fourth point is, you already have Nemesis mode. And it is quite acceptable! It is an actual escape mode, it fits the server, and best of all, it is knife friendly. It's the mode for all those knife fags who just can't hold their shit together until their katanas hit a Nemesis. Despite it being broken as fuck sometimes, and it being unfair, you have what you need and crave for.


To finalize...
I'm not going to bother to review zm_knife_fun map, because it shouldn't be a part of the server at all. It's just a silly stupid map, broken, repetitive and gets boring real quick. All I hear when I'm playing that map are hysterical giggles or expressions like, "WHAT?? HOW??". This is a very used expression, even by a couple of top knife fags who just want to continue playing the map for over a hour.
It shouldn't even be extended over 1 time, because that's at least 20 rounds played. Same shit over and over. Best of all, not even ZE. How nice.

For the love of god, move it to MG server or restrict it heavily on ZE server. You can play it all you like over there. But yeah... Whatever it is you do, this map, any ZM map on ZE server, has got to go or be heavily limited. Thanks.




Sincerely, from a Zombie Escape player, who would very much like to play Zombie Escape maps, on a Zombie Escape server.



 
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We've had zm_cbble on the server for quite a long time, which includes actual normal ZM mode, but you see, people vote for it sometimes when they see it nominated. Same goes for this new map. The thing you said that it has been extended, wasn't it because people enjoyed it and voted to extend it? If the majority enjoys it, and only a really small minority of the playerbase have complains about it (you're the first one I've heard who doesn't like the map, others might have simply ignored it like with any other ze map they don't like, now this map is just a +1 on their ignore-list), then what's the point of arguing about it? (Saying arguing, tho this might as well doesn't turn out to be anything, let's see if other people will write down their opinions down here)
 
As far as I'm informed, admins aren't supposed to extend a map beyond a certain amount of minutes outside events.
Playing the map once a day for 30 minutes is fine, but it gets out of hand when the map is played for over an hour.
Not to mention it is extremely repetitive and only enjoyed because of absolute and utter Lifeblood of Zombie Escape.

Anyways, it's "new" and played because of that. It'll lose it's novelty and be forgotten within the next two weeks.
 
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Kaka said:
"stop enjoying things i don't enjoy"
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Prime example of ignorant kids these days.
I'm afraid this isn't about me liking or disliking the map. Read the damn post, kiddo. One would think an admin would bring up a good point, but no. We all know we have some kids as administrators these days. [USERGROUP=11]@Global Admin[/USERGROUP] I wonder if looking at admins has gotten boring for you guys.
 
@Shino What Glacius said. It's only extended because its pure Lifeblood of Zombie Escape.
My main point still stands, you have Nemesis to do this kind of game play. Knife fun is a zm map. Neither this or cobble belong here, but yet it's still brought without consent of the community first. Someone just shoves it in the server and calls it a day.
 
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The old version of surf and voodoo should still (or used to) have an restriction allowing them only to be nominated if there are less than 32 players online. We could bring up for discussion if the more cusotmized mods like nemesis, zombie hunting and the new knife mod might need an change in restrictions towards the same method, however probably with higher caps like 40 or 50 players. That way we can ensure that when the server is full only actual core ze is played.

But yeah this only occurs if most people would agree with that idea, otherwise nothing would change. We try to go by majorities and we change our ideas if reached a point where we see that most want change.
 
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So far the smarter post is the one from Shino.
If you don't like the map don't join, it's like any other ze map.


Midnight Light said:
Change the darned map name to ZM_knife_fun, it's not an escape map.
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It's just a name, but if that trigger your oldfag period we can, maybe, change the name.


Midnight Light said:
SECONDLY, ZM MAPS ON ZE? LOL! Why's this even on normal nominations?
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We already had some zm maps in the normal nomations as well. People used to play them to chill a bit and then move on.
Now players forget about it, it's just a circle, like for the most played map, sometimes map Y will be overplayer and the next time map X will be overplayed.


Midnight Light said:
Thirdly, cooldown nomination. I could care less about you guys playing this crap. To be honest, if you all played it during the day, when people with responsibilities, jobs, a life, (lolxd we know some of you kids don't really grasp that reality yet) can't really be on the server at that time, they wouldn't whine at a map that's not even supposed to be on this specific server mode in the first place!
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Really sorry mister very busy life, but maybe the players who want to play this map are also busy during the days and just wanted to have some fun with their friend on this map ?


Midnight Light said:
But that's not happening, you're playing this at late hours, even extending it, multiple times. That's a big no. Here's a possibility, add cooldown to the map (more than 40, this limit is very low), or ya'know, just remove it from nominations, admin only. I'd like to hop on this server and actually play the game mode it's supposed to offer me. Give people at least that.
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I agree on that, people should expect to be a ze map at least.
I don't mind a hard adding a limit as well to avoid it being played each days.


Midnight Light said:
Fourth point is, you already have Nemesis mode.
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That's probably the dumbest point. it's like telling a company to not try new thing and see how things goes with it ?
Basicly you want to stay in your oldfag world and keep it this way.
Sorry but not sorry this is not how it works.
We are searching for new idea to add for the server.
This map has been added to the server less than 1week and you're already acting like the whole server became a zm server instead of a ze server chill dude it's just a test.


Glacius said:
As far as I'm informed, admins aren't supposed to extend a map beyond a certain amount of minutes outside events.
Playing the map once a day for 30 minutes is fine, but it gets out of hand when the map is played for over an hour.
Not to mention it is extremely repetitive and only enjoyed because of absolute and utter lifeblood of zombie escape.

Anyways, it's "new" and played because of that. It'll lose it's novelty and be forgotten within the next two weeks.
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It has been extended by the regular map vote not from an admin.
So far that's what I see from the admins-logs.
You could take a look before saying that maybe.
But also like you said, people will forget about it soon, it's just because it's new.

Midnight Light said:
Global Admin I wonder if looking at admins has gotten boring for you guys.
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We do, stop acting all mighty pls
We also have life and stuff to do irl + watching the server.


Conclusion : You are overreacting on something we are just testing.
We don't mind adding a higher cooldown, and if it's possible reduce the number of extend on it to avoid the being played too much.
Same for the name so people will join knowing it's more a zm map.
So admins will discuss it and will see how it ends up.

Thanks for you feedback.
 
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Midnight Light said:
Read the damn post, kiddo. One would think an admin would bring up a good point, but no. We all know we have some kids as administrators these days.
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Honestly his satiric and comical reply had more substance than your post.

You literally took 1 sentence of subjective criticism and made it into a wall of text and all you do is committing logical/argument fallacies when replying to Kaka's or other's posts. Jenz already knows my opinions so I won't bother here
 
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William! :D said:
Honestly his satiric and comical reply had more substance than your post.

You literally took 1 sentence of subjective criticism and made it into a wall of text and all you do is committing logical/argument fallacies when replying to Kaka's or other's posts. Jenz already knows my opinions so I won't bother here
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Absolutely, why bother putting anything meaningful to your post, what are you a global admin? LMAO.
Middy gave a fair point, and received immature responses not fit for "an administration team". My two cents on the matter.
 
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Exodus said:
Absolutely, why bother putting anything meaningful to your post, what are you a global admin? LMAO.
Middy gave a fair point, and received immature responses not fit for "an administration team". My two cents on the matter.
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Ooof you guys just love logical fallacies, circkle jerking and provocations as arguments, thinking it will bring you anywhere.
If you are so concerned about supporting arguments, do a better job than him and keep it factual and proper. We already have too many people bringing wall of texts, at the end this is an admin decision and I have given my opinions to admins.
Your two cents must be fake because they hold no value.
 
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I don't know what you're talking about William. The only worthy reply I see here is from Jenz. The rest is clearly just you all being very ignorant, banter about how I make a fair point and you just can't admit it, completely missing my point. If you don't have anything beneficial to add to this conversation, then do be quiet, even more when you say you don't want to add anything.

I do greatly agree with jenz, ze maps is what should be being played at core. And if you didn't get that, you clearly didn't read, and are therefore ignorant.

You should stop looking at your own belly button, and maybe look at the prime example of your superior staff and owner.




EDIT: Again though, just in case you missed it on the main post, I'm mainly concerned about the fact that this isn't a zombie escape map. Hell, I'm not against anything new you guys might bring up, so long it fits the theme of escape, so long it fits the purpose of the game, it's all good. Why not put this mode in a different map instead? Are you even planning to do such a thing, considering such a thing? Legitimate big THONK.
 
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This thread is getting out of hand.
Yes, it’s a horrible ZM trash map that should be there for meme hour not on normal nomination, but Middy is also exaggerating their points about it.
It’s been a few days since this map was available to the public and it has been played ”every day” because people like meme’ing new shit, no matter how bad it is.
This is, and has been how ZE has been portrayed for years now, and it’s not going to change any time soon.

Now, if you’re absolutely against having maps like ”knife_fun” or Cobble on the server, please make a community vote about it.

I will keep reading this post with my popcorn but I won’t reply further. If you want me to take action, message me in a DM. Yikes.
 
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Midnight Light said:
Why not put this mode in a different map instead? Are you even planning to do such a thing, considering such a thing? Legitimate big THONK.
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Ofc we are, like I told you it's a test but you still don't get it.
A fucking test maybe we will delete it for goods later depending on how it turns out
But yet you're only looking at your own belly button.
Maybe you're smarter than our techs so you should code it yourself so maybe it will go faster with your all mighty knowledge
 
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I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself there Zega. Need some tea to calm down? Chill and quit putting words that aren't mine in my mouth mkay. I didn't claim to be almighty or know everything, and I'm certainly not the one looking at my own belly button.

If this is going to be discussed in the next staff meeting like jenz suggested, then I've got nothing else to add or say. My point is very clear, and I'm not the only one who agrees with it. Even some of the staff agree with me.

We'll see how things go from here.
 
I only read the original thread and first couple of posts as it drifted off quite fast... To be honest I do not see any point to argue with in the original post. Only because of the simple fact that it does not force people to run from A to B kinda beats the purpose of the game-mode. So far my useless opinion, have fun with it!
 
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Nivinski said:
To be honest I do not see any point to argue with in the original post. Only because of the simple fact that it does not force people to run from A to B kinda beats the purpose of the game-mode.
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But of course, some people can't comprehend this notion, Niv. The person who made the map named it ze_knife_fun instead of zm. That says a lot about their knowledge regarding ZE.
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